The same picture is used for the 590A1 and the 590 Retrograde Persuader so whats the difference? Do they both have wood stocks, bayonet lugs, and metal heat shields? 3 inch chambers?

Hi Donald, the 590 A1 has a heavy-walled barrel and ghost ring sights. The 590 Retro has standard barrel and bead sights. Stay safe & have a great day!

The difference with the 590A1 is the heavy Barrel & the Ghost Ring sights.

persuader has standard weight barrel and a bead sight the 59A1 has a heavy wall barrel and ghost sights

Hi Donald and welcome. The 590 A1 Retro has Ghost Ring Sights and a Heavy Barrel. This Retro has the standard Barrel and no Ghost Ring Sights : https://www.budsgunshop.com/product_info.php/products_id/109204/mossberg+%26+sons+590a1+retro+12+ga+9rd+20

Will this model shoot and cycle mini shells?

Shoot, yes - cycle, no unless you use an adapter like this one: https://www.budsgunshop.com/product_info.php/products_id/36595/opsol+texas+miniclip+mini-clip+for+mossberg+500+590+12+gauge+1+round+polymer+black+finish

Is this shotgun legal for purchase in New York?

Hi Joseph, yes sir this is NY legal. Pump action shotguns do not have the same restrictions as semi-autos do. https://www.budsgunshop.com/feeds/state_reg/new_york_restrictions.pdf Stay safe & have a great day!

yes it is legal as a pump with under a 10 round capacity https://www.budsgunshop.com/feeds/state_reg/new_york_restrictions.pdf%3Cbr

Hi Joseph and welcome. Yes, as Pump Action Shotguns are not restricted as their Semi-Auto brethren. Cheers and enjoy!

Can ghost ring sights be added to this aftermarket?

Hi Ryan and welcome. Yes, but gunsmithing is required for the front Sight. Best to try and find Ghost Ring Sights already installed.

Ryan, model 51665 comes with ghost ring sights, but out of stock everywhere. I would try to find a local FFL who is a Mossberg dealer and ask about ordering one. https://www.budsgunshop.com/product_info.php/products_id/109204/mossberg+%26+sons+590a1+retro+12+ga+9rd+20 , Good luck, stay safe, & have a great day!

Is this shotgun legal for sale in Illinois. There is a sentence in the law that states "ANY shotgun with a fixed magazine capacity in excess of 5 rounds"

Steve, this is not legal in Illinois because of the 8+1 magazine capacity. No shotgun can have over a 5 round capacity weather it's semi automatic, pump, has a fixed magazine tube or detachable magazine. Sorry but hope this helps. If interested here's a link to Illinois's restrictions....................... https://www.budsgunshop.com/feeds/state_reg/illinois_restrictions.pdf

Hi Steve and welcome to the Community. Unfortunately no due to the extended tube magazine capable of holding more than 5 rounds. Details under Shotguns here: https://www.budsgunshop.com/feeds/state_reg/illinois_restrictions.pdf - Cheers and stay safe!

Steve, this is no longer legal in Illinois. Prohibited - "a fixed magazine with the capacity of more than 5 rounds" The only way it would be legal would be to have the magazine permanently altered to hold only 5 round and Bud's will not ship unless it is compliant as is.

Does this model have a metel triger guard.

No it has a polymer trigger guard, not metal. Sorry but hope this helps.

Rick, from what I am reading, the 590 Retrograde does not have the metal trigger guard. The 590A1 Retrograde does have it. Have a great day!

Rick, no Sir it does not have the metal trigger guard. Just the 590A1. Also the length of pull is reduced to 13.87 inches over the standard models for quicker handling. Cheers and stay safe!

Does this model have interchangable chokes?

Steven, this model has a fixed cylinder bore and is not threaded for chokes. Cheers and stay safe!

No sir, comes with fixed cylinder bore choke.

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Mossberg & Sons 590 Retrograde Persuader 12 GA 20" 8+1 - Blue/Black, 20" Barrel, 8+1 Rounds, Wood, 3" Chamber, Walnut Stock

Name: Mossberg & Sons 590 Retrograde Persuader 12 GA 20" 8+1
Brand: Mossberg
SKU: 125694
Availability: InStock
Rating: 5.00 (6 reviews)

6 Reviews| 8 Questions & Answers

Model: 52150

Condition: Factory New

Bud's Item Number: 125694

UPC: 015813521505

MFG: Mossberg

Questions & Answers (8) Reviews 5 out of 5

Mossberg & Sons 590 Retrograde Persuader 12 GA 20 8+1

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Mossberg 52150 590 Retrograde Persuader 12 Gauge 20" 8+1

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Metal Finish

Blue/Black

Action

Pump

Gauge

12 Gauge

Barrel Length

Overall Length

41"

Capacity

8+1

Stock Material

Wood

Chamber

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Walnut

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Tom P on 03/31/2024

Rating: 5 of 5 Stars!

Absolutely perfect. Wonderful shotgun for home defense.

Douglass P on 03/18/2024

Rating: 5 of 5 Stars!

Excellent looking gun. No issues with the entire purchase process. Recoil is a bit more noticeable when compared to a SA, but that is to be expected. Action a bit stiff, but that is common with Mossberg firearms. It should loosen up with use.

Timothy C on 12/21/2023

Rating: 5 of 5 Stars!

Just what I was looking for. A classic looking shotgun. Feels sturdy. Shipped fast, good experience. Five stars

Leonard S on 11/19/2023

Rating: 5 of 5 Stars!

I have wanted this gun for a long time. Mossberg did a great job with this shotgun. This was bought for home safety. You would be advised to buy this gun. Only thing bad is it did not come with the ghost ring sights. Mossberg needs to address that. Buds was great as always. Will be ordering another gun from soon.

Gary L on 09/27/2023

Rating: 5 of 5 Stars!

I have wanted this shotgun for a while without ever seeing one in person and MAN it is a show stopper in person! I love how this looks and plan to get a replica bayonet and sling to make this just an awesome display piece and go shoot from time to time. Just a great looking gun and we all know the reliability of the 590 already so no doubt there.

David C on 05/26/2023

Rating: 5 of 5 Stars!

Excellent shotgun. The retrograde look with a nice feel of real wood furniture. Shoots very well.

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Questions & Answers

Q: The same picture is used for the 590A1 and the 590 Retrograde Persuader so whats the difference? Do they both have wood stocks, bayonet lugs, and metal heat shields? 3 inch chambers?
Answered

Asked 06/27/2024 15:48 by Donald W

A:

Hi Donald, the 590 A1 has a heavy-walled barrel and ghost ring sights. The 590 Retro has standard barrel and bead sights.
Stay safe & have a great day!
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Q: Will this model shoot and cycle mini shells?
Answered

Asked 05/04/2024 22:50 by Ethan L

A:

Shoot, yes - cycle, no unless you use an adapter like this one: https://www.budsgunshop.com/product_info.php/products_id/36595/opsol+texas+miniclip+mini-clip+for+mossberg+500+590+12+gauge+1+round+polymer+black+finish
Q: Is this shotgun legal for purchase in New York?
Answered

Asked 01/06/2024 22:32 by Joseph L

A:

Hi Joseph, yes sir this is NY legal. Pump action shotguns do not have the same restrictions as semi-autos do.
https://www.budsgunshop.com/feeds/state_reg/new_york_restrictions.pdf
Stay safe & have a great day!
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Q: Can ghost ring sights be added to this aftermarket?
Answered

Asked 10/03/2023 21:00 by Ryan B

A:

Hi Ryan and welcome. Yes, but gunsmithing is required for the front Sight. Best to try and find Ghost Ring Sights already installed.
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Q: Is this shotgun legal for sale in Illinois. There is a sentence in the law that states "ANY shotgun with a fixed magazine capacity in excess of 5 rounds"
Answered

Asked 08/29/2023 18:34 by Steve B

A:

Steve, this is not legal in Illinois because of the 8+1 magazine capacity. No shotgun can have over a 5 round capacity weather it's semi automatic, pump, has a fixed magazine tube or detachable magazine. Sorry but hope this helps. If interested here's a link to Illinois's restrictions....................... https://www.budsgunshop.com/feeds/state_reg/illinois_restrictions.pdf
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Q: Does this model have a metel triger guard.
Answered

Asked 01/27/2022 12:05 by Rick J

A:

No it has a polymer trigger guard, not metal. Sorry but hope this helps.
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Q: Does this model have interchangable chokes?
Answered

Asked 05/05/2021 01:18 by Steven R

A:

Steven, this model has a fixed cylinder bore and is not threaded for chokes. Cheers and stay safe!
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